Meine Liebe – episode 6
Dec. 23rd, 2004 03:22 am![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png){kind=small}
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nekonexus’s post and just couldn’t resist.
I think I have a greater respect for Orphe now and as much as I laughed at Sir Isaac’s lack of decent clothing at the start of the episode well...
Sir Isaac wasn’t exactly subtle about having a hidden agenda, I have to say. And not far in every signal was pointing to the Secret Service. That’s not to say that he might not be doing whatever it is he’s doing somewhat freelance but my money’s on him not having left the military at all.
Which reminds me of a comment about those love letters that burnt out spies write to their handlers. Which isn't to say that I think Sir Isaac is anywhere near the end of his career at all.
From his little interview session with the Strahl candidates it was hard to tell if he was truly that bitter or just bating them. I couldn’t say for certain, because I’m just that suspicious really and suspect that it might easily have been bating laid over being bitter about his war experiences. His comments were rather calculated to provoke at the end of the day, though it’s debatable as to why he wanted to provoke them.
Certainly it would explain both Orphe and Ludwig’s somewhat guarded responses. Orphe, without dishonestly just talking about ideals and Ludwig covering any hint of weakness with pointed statements to an absolutist theme. I suppose it’s an interesting character analysis that Orphe seemed to state his point and almost step back from it, as if to say ‘take it or leave it, as you wish’, while Ludwig seemed to match offensive statements though in a milder manner, then again he might have easily been bating both Sir Isaac and Orphe in one go. Equally his comment at the end saying that he’s apologising for Orphe is more a matter of saving face and having yet another dig at Orphe rather than anything malicious. In fact, a lot of what he says isn’t really quite as offensive as it could be. Though it would seem that Sir Isaac gets it.
Additionally there’s a lot of emphasis from the other characters as to what they expect of Ludwig. There might well be a touch of if you believe me to be so, then I will be going on there.
It also puts the first duel in episode 2 into a whole new perspective. Throwing up the possibility that Ludwig is just waiting for Orphe to fight back. Or course it’s not quite as easy as that because of Orphe’s nature... perhaps? Either way, they’re wonderfully matched. And perhaps if it did all fall in to place then Ludwig might be more likely to let show that softer side that Camus keeps going on about, because there’ll be someone there to stand as his equal, to both support and to keep him in check.
Also, if Ludwig were to be blindsided by anyone I have a horrible suspicion that it might be Camus’ fault.
Perhaps I’m reading too much into this but Ludwig strikes me as someone who knows just how tyrannical he might be, he’s fully aware of the depths of his own nature and just how he might easily fall into believing that what he was doing was for the sake of the country, without someone to hold him back. It’s not to say that he lacks self-control but he’s aware of the dangers.
First you begin by telling yourself that you’re right, and then you start believing it.
And that’s exactly why he’d need Orphe; and in return Orphe would need Ludwig to give structure and reason to his ideals because at the end of the day Orphe comes off as too idealistic to be pragmatic and Ludwig appears so pragmatic that it becomes cruelty. They balance or at least I expect they might by the end of the series.
Which comes back to a comment Naoji makes in episode 5 about not being able to be Ludwig’s equal. It makes sense, in fact I’ve got a whole little bundle of reasons why Ludwig and Naoji don’t quite fit but that’s probably worth another ramble of its own. Suffice to say, in respect to control and wanting there of; I think they’re too similar. Regardless of Ludwig’s direct style of command and Naoji’s possibly more suggestive manner, at the end of the day they both want to control and with them both part of the same strata, Kuchen probably wouldn’t cope with the fallout.
And anyway by the looks of it the Communists want to be rid of Kuchen’s parliament that seems to consist only of the nobility. And why am I calling them Communists? Because the use of the term ‘comrade’ rather than ‘ally’ or ‘friend’ is rather specific to Communist lingo.
In fact I think that they’re wrong about their assessment of Sir Isaac being there for similar reasons. I’d say he’s just there to monitor the political situation, something of a rather MI6 attitude really. Though the insurgents have jumped to the conclusion that because he’s an outsider, paying close attention to the Strahl candidates, he must be there to sabotage something in the same way that they most likely are.
At least, that's my current conclusion subject to change on further evidence...
nekonexus’s post and just couldn’t resist.I think I have a greater respect for Orphe now and as much as I laughed at Sir Isaac’s lack of decent clothing at the start of the episode well...
Sir Isaac wasn’t exactly subtle about having a hidden agenda, I have to say. And not far in every signal was pointing to the Secret Service. That’s not to say that he might not be doing whatever it is he’s doing somewhat freelance but my money’s on him not having left the military at all.
Which reminds me of a comment about those love letters that burnt out spies write to their handlers. Which isn't to say that I think Sir Isaac is anywhere near the end of his career at all.
From his little interview session with the Strahl candidates it was hard to tell if he was truly that bitter or just bating them. I couldn’t say for certain, because I’m just that suspicious really and suspect that it might easily have been bating laid over being bitter about his war experiences. His comments were rather calculated to provoke at the end of the day, though it’s debatable as to why he wanted to provoke them.
Certainly it would explain both Orphe and Ludwig’s somewhat guarded responses. Orphe, without dishonestly just talking about ideals and Ludwig covering any hint of weakness with pointed statements to an absolutist theme. I suppose it’s an interesting character analysis that Orphe seemed to state his point and almost step back from it, as if to say ‘take it or leave it, as you wish’, while Ludwig seemed to match offensive statements though in a milder manner, then again he might have easily been bating both Sir Isaac and Orphe in one go. Equally his comment at the end saying that he’s apologising for Orphe is more a matter of saving face and having yet another dig at Orphe rather than anything malicious. In fact, a lot of what he says isn’t really quite as offensive as it could be. Though it would seem that Sir Isaac gets it.
Additionally there’s a lot of emphasis from the other characters as to what they expect of Ludwig. There might well be a touch of if you believe me to be so, then I will be going on there.
It also puts the first duel in episode 2 into a whole new perspective. Throwing up the possibility that Ludwig is just waiting for Orphe to fight back. Or course it’s not quite as easy as that because of Orphe’s nature... perhaps? Either way, they’re wonderfully matched. And perhaps if it did all fall in to place then Ludwig might be more likely to let show that softer side that Camus keeps going on about, because there’ll be someone there to stand as his equal, to both support and to keep him in check.
Also, if Ludwig were to be blindsided by anyone I have a horrible suspicion that it might be Camus’ fault.
Perhaps I’m reading too much into this but Ludwig strikes me as someone who knows just how tyrannical he might be, he’s fully aware of the depths of his own nature and just how he might easily fall into believing that what he was doing was for the sake of the country, without someone to hold him back. It’s not to say that he lacks self-control but he’s aware of the dangers.
First you begin by telling yourself that you’re right, and then you start believing it.
And that’s exactly why he’d need Orphe; and in return Orphe would need Ludwig to give structure and reason to his ideals because at the end of the day Orphe comes off as too idealistic to be pragmatic and Ludwig appears so pragmatic that it becomes cruelty. They balance or at least I expect they might by the end of the series.
Which comes back to a comment Naoji makes in episode 5 about not being able to be Ludwig’s equal. It makes sense, in fact I’ve got a whole little bundle of reasons why Ludwig and Naoji don’t quite fit but that’s probably worth another ramble of its own. Suffice to say, in respect to control and wanting there of; I think they’re too similar. Regardless of Ludwig’s direct style of command and Naoji’s possibly more suggestive manner, at the end of the day they both want to control and with them both part of the same strata, Kuchen probably wouldn’t cope with the fallout.
And anyway by the looks of it the Communists want to be rid of Kuchen’s parliament that seems to consist only of the nobility. And why am I calling them Communists? Because the use of the term ‘comrade’ rather than ‘ally’ or ‘friend’ is rather specific to Communist lingo.
In fact I think that they’re wrong about their assessment of Sir Isaac being there for similar reasons. I’d say he’s just there to monitor the political situation, something of a rather MI6 attitude really. Though the insurgents have jumped to the conclusion that because he’s an outsider, paying close attention to the Strahl candidates, he must be there to sabotage something in the same way that they most likely are.
At least, that's my current conclusion subject to change on further evidence...
